Simone Brauner. In classical literature, the comparison between body and landscape is often eroticized, frequently from a desiring perspective. In feminist thinking, it becomes instead a living ecosystem, a place of memory and resistance—a grown landscape rather than a declining form. What place does desire have in the Auntieverse?
niceaunties. There is nothing wrong with sexual attribution, as it is very much part of our embodied nature, especially when one loves, appreciates, and is connected to one's body, not necessarily seeking external validation. In the Auntieverse, the desire is for freedom, power, and self alignment, and this extends to every aspect of being this new expression of auntiehood: in thought, feelings, inspired actions, and in connecting with our bodies. Ageing is beautiful, and so is the freedom of trying out ways of self care or wanting to stay youthful, as long as it stays light, playful, and self loving.
Simone Brauner. In preparing this interview, I came across Ursula K. Le Guin's essay "The Space Crone" (1976), in which she reclaims the postmenopausal woman not as a figure of decline, but as one of experience, knowledge, and a different kind of authority. Le Guin imagines the "spacecrone" as a figure fit for unknown futures, someone who might know how to live with solitude, change, survival, and the care of life. If the world becomes increasingly digital, and we had to send an auntie into the future, what would she carry with her? What would she know that others might forget? And how can we all keep those values alive, especially in times of crisis?
niceaunties. I love this question! There are a few ideas.
The first is reframing perspectives. Anything can be reframed, and even more so when one zooms out beyond the situation. The auntie would carry with her the ability to see things differently, to find new meaning where others see only limitation.
The second is the balance between the individual and the whole. The auntie would be the one to remind society that care for the individual is just as important as caring for the collective, just as cellular health and microbes and the body support one another. It is all about balance.
The third is belief. The auntie carries the understanding that she has the power to create her own reality. With love and care for others, while giving importance to herself first and foremost, she demonstrates that self sovereignty is not selfishness but the foundation from which everything else grows.
Simone Brauner. In works such as homebody and falls, the body becomes landscape. You refer to Alan Watts: "We do not come into this world; we come out of it, as leaves from a tree." How do viewers tend to respond to these works, and what interests you in those responses?
niceaunties. It is interesting that for some viewers, the images appear as grotesque and scary, even though it is the very flesh of us. In the Chinese legend, the goddess Nvwa created men out of the clay of the earth, and so did God create Adam out of earth in the Bible. The reaction to these images often reveals more about the viewer's belief system than about the work itself.
Simone Brauner. Your images visualise this sense of interconnectedness so powerfully that, as a viewer, I am immediately reminded of who I am and what I come from. But while I enter this world, a second voice appears: the knowledge of the resources, server farms, and algorithms required to make these visions possible. I often feel this contradiction myself when using these tools. How do you live with this contradiction?"
niceaunties. As for the contradiction of using energy-intensive technology to bring us closer to nature, everything, every part of our existence, requires resources. If I could positively influence people to rethink or question ageing and our relationships with one another, our bodies with the planet, can that kind of intangible giving back be measured against how much I take? I think nobody can truly answer that question.